Legislature(2023 - 2024)

2023-04-19 House Journal

Full Journal pdf

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0774
HB 104                                                                                                                        
The following was read the second time:                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
    HOUSE BILL NO. 104                                                                                                          
    "An Act relating to expedited timber sales."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
with the:                                                  Journal Page                                                         
                                                                                                                                
 RES RPT CS(RES) NEW TITLE 4DP 2NR                                  744                                                         
 FN1: ZERO(DNR)                                                     744                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                               
following committee substitute be adopted in lieu of the original bill:                                                         
                                                                                                                                
    CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 104(RES)                                                                                              
    "An Act relating to salvage sales of timber, negotiated timber                                                              
    sales for local manufacture of wood products, and expedited                                                                 
    timber sales; and providing for an effective date."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
There being no objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 1 was offered  by Representative Josephson:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 10, through page 6, line 4:                                                                                        
    Delete all material.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Page 7, line 1:                                                                                                                 
    Delete "AS 38.05.035(e) and"                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 7, line 2:                                                                                                                 
    Delete "may, without [, AFTER]"                                                                                         
    Insert ", after"                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0775
Page 7, line 3:                                                                                                                 
    Delete "[MAY]"                                                                                                              
    Insert "may"                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 1 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative McCabe objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson rose to a point of order regarding                                                                     
inappropriate remarks made in debate.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The Speaker cautioned the member.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 1 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES)                                                                                                                   
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 1                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  14   NAYS:  24   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Armstrong, Carrick, Dibert, Galvin, Groh, Hannan, Himschoot,                                                             
Josephson, Mears, Mina, Ortiz, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Carpenter, Coulombe, Cronk, Eastman, Edgmon, Fields,                                                                     
Foster, Gray, C.Johnson, D.Johnson, McCabe, McCormick, McKay,                                                                   
Patkotak, Prax, Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler, Shaw, Stapp, Tilton,                                                              
Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 1 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 2 was not offered.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 3 was offered  by Representative Josephson:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 7, lines 10 - 12:                                                                                                          
    Delete "may negotiate sales of timber without advertisement                                                             
and on the limitations, conditions, and terms that are considered                                                           
to be in the best interests of the state"                                                                                   

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0776
    Insert "(1)  may not negotiate sales of timber without                                                                  
    advertisement;                                                                                                          
             (2)  shall negotiate sales of timber under the                                                                 
    limitations, conditions, and terms that are considered to be in                                                         
    the best interests of the state"                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 3 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 3 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES)                                                                                                                   
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 3                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  21   NAYS:  17   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Armstrong, Carrick, Dibert, Eastman, Edgmon, Fields, Galvin,                                                             
Gray, Groh, Hannan, Himschoot, Josephson, McCormick, Mears,                                                                     
Mina, Ortiz, Ruffridge, Schrage, Story, Stutes, Vance                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Carpenter, Coulombe, Cronk, Foster, C.Johnson, D.Johnson,                                                                
McCabe, McKay, Patkotak, Prax, Rauscher, Saddler, Shaw, Stapp,                                                                  
Tilton, Tomaszewski, Wright                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 3 was adopted.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                               
House rescind previous action in adopting Amendment No. 3.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eastman objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall the House rescind previous action in                                                                
adopting Amendment No. 3?" The roll was taken with the following                                                                
result:                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES) am                                                                                                                
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Rescind Previous Action in adopting Amendment No. 3                                                                             
                                                                                                                                

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0777
YEAS:  34   NAYS:  4   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Armstrong, Carpenter, Carrick, Coulombe, Cronk, Dibert,                                                                  
Edgmon, Fields, Foster, Galvin, Gray, Hannan, C.Johnson, D.Johnson,                                                             
McCabe, McCormick, McKay, Mears, Mina, Ortiz, Patkotak, Prax,                                                                   
Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schrage, Shaw, Stapp, Story, Stutes,                                                              
Tilton, Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Eastman, Groh, Himschoot, Josephson                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, the motion passed.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 3 was before the House (page 775).                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 3 was offered  by                                                                               
Representative Fields:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 2 of the amendment:                                                                                                
 Delete "advertisement"                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 5:                                                                                                                 
 Insert "notice"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fields moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                    
Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 3 be adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eastman objected.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 3                                                                  
be adopted?"  The roll was taken with the following result:                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES)                                                                                                                   
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 3                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  38   NAYS:  0   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Armstrong, Carpenter, Carrick, Coulombe, Cronk, Dibert,                                                                  
Eastman, Edgmon, Fields, Foster, Galvin, Gray, Groh, Hannan,                                                                    
Himschoot, C.Johnson, D.Johnson, Josephson, McCabe, McCormick,                                                                  
McKay, Mears, Mina, Ortiz, Patkotak, Prax, Rauscher, Ruffridge,                                                                 
Saddler, Schrage, Shaw, Stapp, Story, Stutes, Tilton, Tomaszewski,                                                              
Vance, Wright                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0778
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 3 was adopted.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler moved and asked unanimous consent that the                                                               
House rescind previous action in adopting Amendment No. 1 to                                                                    
Amendment No. 3.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Objection was heard and withdrawn. There being no further objection,                                                            
it was so ordered.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fields moved and asked unanimous consent to                                                                      
withdraw Amendment No. 1 to Amendment No. 3.  There being no                                                                    
objection, it was so ordered.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 2 to Amendment No. 3 was offered  by                                                                               
Representative Fields:                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 5 of the amendment:                                                                                                
 Delete "advertisement"                                                                                                       
 Insert "notice"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Fields moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                    
Amendment No. 2 to Amendment No. 3 be adopted.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eastman objected and withdrew the objection. There                                                               
being no further objection, Amendment No. 2 to Amendment No. 3                                                                  
was adopted.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 3 as amended be                                                                       
adopted?" The roll was taken with the following result:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES)                                                                                                                   
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 3 as amended                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  36   NAYS:  2   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Armstrong, Carpenter, Carrick, Coulombe, Cronk, Dibert,                                                                  
Eastman, Edgmon, Fields, Foster, Galvin, Gray, Groh, Hannan,                                                                    
Himschoot, C.Johnson, D.Johnson, Josephson, McCabe, McCormick,                                                                  
McKay, Mears, Mina, Ortiz, Patkotak, Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler,                                                              
Schrage, Shaw, Story, Stutes, Tilton, Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                
                                                                                                                                

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0779
Nays:  Prax, Stapp                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 3 as amended was adopted.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 4 was offered  by Representative Josephson:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 8, line 14, following the first occurrence of "commissioner":                                                              
    Insert "that does not exceed 160 acres"                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 4 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative McCabe objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 4 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES) am                                                                                                                
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 4                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  14   NAYS:  24   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Carrick, Dibert, Eastman, Galvin, Groh, Hannan, Himschoot,                                                               
Josephson, Mears, Mina, Ortiz, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Armstrong, Carpenter, Coulombe, Cronk, Edgmon, Fields,                                                                   
Foster, Gray, C.Johnson, D.Johnson, McCabe, McCormick, McKay,                                                                   
Patkotak, Prax, Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler, Shaw, Stapp, Tilton,                                                              
Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 4 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 5 was offered  by Representative Josephson:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 6, line 20:                                                                                                                
    Delete ", salvage sales under AS 38.05.117,"                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Page 8, line 31, through page 9, line 5:                                                                                        
    Delete all material.                                                                                                        

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0780
Reletter the following subsection accordingly.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 5 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
There was objection.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent to                                                                   
withdraw Amendment No. 5. There being no objection, it was so                                                                   
ordered.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 6 was not offered.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 7 was offered  by Representative Josephson:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 6, lines 20 - 21:                                                                                                          
    Delete ", salvage sales under AS 38.05.117, and expedited                                                           
timber sales under AS 38.05.124"                                                                                            
    Insert "and salvage sales under AS 38.05.117"                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Page 9, line 1:                                                                                                                 
    Delete "is not required to"                                                                                                 
    Insert "shall"                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 7 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative McCabe objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 7 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES) am                                                                                                                
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 7                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  13   NAYS:  25   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Armstrong, Carrick, Eastman, Galvin, Groh, Hannan,                                                                       
Himschoot, Josephson, Mears, Mina, Ortiz, Schrage, Story                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0781
Nays:  Carpenter, Coulombe, Cronk, Dibert, Edgmon, Fields, Foster,                                                              
Gray, C.Johnson, D.Johnson, McCabe, McCormick, McKay, Patkotak,                                                                 
Prax, Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler, Shaw, Stapp, Stutes, Tilton,                                                                
Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 7 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 8 was offered  by Representative Josephson:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, following line 4:                                                                                                       
    Insert a new bill section to read:                                                                                          
"* Section 1. The uncodified law of the State of Alaska is amended                                                            
by adding a new section to read:                                                                                                
    LEGISLATIVE INTENT. It is the intent of the legislature that                                                                
nothing in this Act shall be interpreted to prevent the Department of                                                           
Natural Resources from leasing land for carbon management purposes                                                              
or establishing a carbon offset program for state land, including the                                                           
undertaking of carbon offset projects on land in legislatively                                                                  
designated state forests."                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Page 1, line 5:                                                                                                                 
    Delete "Section 1"                                                                                                        
    Insert "Sec. 2"                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Renumber the following bill sections accordingly.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 8 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Cronk objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 8 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES) am                                                                                                                
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 8                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  13   NAYS:  25   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0782
Yeas:  Armstrong, Carrick, Dibert, Fields, Galvin, Groh, Hannan,                                                                
Himschoot, Josephson, Mina, Ortiz, Schrage, Story                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Carpenter, Coulombe, Cronk, Eastman, Edgmon, Foster, Gray,                                                               
C.Johnson, D.Johnson, McCabe, McCormick, McKay, Mears,                                                                          
Patkotak, Prax, Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler, Shaw, Stapp, Stutes,                                                              
Tilton, Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 8 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 9 was offered  by Representative Josephson:                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Page 8, line 22, following "area":                                                                                              
    Insert "repeatedly and consistently"                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Josephson moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                 
Amendment No. 9 be adopted.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stapp objected.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 9 be adopted?"  The roll                                                              
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES) am                                                                                                                
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 9                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  11   NAYS:  27   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Carrick, Galvin, Groh, Hannan, Himschoot, Josephson, Mears,                                                              
Mina, Ortiz, Schrage, Story                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Armstrong, Carpenter, Coulombe, Cronk, Dibert, Eastman,                                                                  
Edgmon, Fields, Foster, Gray, C.Johnson, D.Johnson, McCabe,                                                                     
McCormick, McKay, Patkotak, Prax, Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler,                                                                 
Shaw, Stapp, Stutes, Tilton, Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 9 was not adopted.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 10 was offered  by Representative Eastman:                                                                         

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0783
Page 1, line 8,                                                                                                                 
 Following "caused by fire":                                                                                                    
  Insert "and"                                                                                                                  
    Following "insect infestation":                                                                                             
  Delete "and disease epidemics,"                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eastman moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                   
Amendment No. 10 be adopted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
There was objection.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 10 be adopted?"  The roll                                                             
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES) am                                                                                                                
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 10                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  4   NAYS:  34   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Eastman, Galvin, Hannan, Himschoot                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Armstrong, Carpenter, Carrick, Coulombe, Cronk, Dibert,                                                                  
Edgmon, Fields, Foster, Gray, Groh, C.Johnson, D.Johnson,                                                                       
Josephson, McCabe, McCormick, McKay, Mears, Mina, Ortiz,                                                                        
Patkotak, Prax, Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler, Schrage, Shaw, Stapp,                                                             
Story, Stutes, Tilton, Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 10 was not adopted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Amendment No. 11 was offered  by Representative Eastman:                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Page 7, line 28:                                                                                                                
 Delete "25"                                                                                                                  
 Insert "15"                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eastman moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                   
Amendment No. 11 be adopted.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative McCabe objected.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                

2023-04-19                     House Journal                      Page 0784
The question being:  "Shall Amendment No. 11 be adopted?"  The roll                                                             
was taken with the following result:                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES) am                                                                                                                
Second Reading                                                                                                                  
Amendment No. 11                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
YEAS:  14   NAYS:  24   EXCUSED:  2   ABSENT:  0                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Yeas:  Carrick, Eastman, Galvin, Gray, Groh, Hannan, Himschoot,                                                                 
Josephson, McCormick, Mina, Ortiz, Schrage, Story, Stutes                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Nays:  Armstrong, Carpenter, Coulombe, Cronk, Dibert, Edgmon,                                                                   
Fields, Foster, C.Johnson, D.Johnson, McCabe, McKay, Mears,                                                                     
Patkotak, Prax, Rauscher, Ruffridge, Saddler, Shaw, Stapp, Tilton,                                                              
Tomaszewski, Vance, Wright                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Excused:  Allard, Sumner                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
And so, Amendment No. 11 was not adopted.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative Saddler moved and asked unanimous consent that                                                                   
CSHB 104(RES) am be considered engrossed, advanced to third                                                                     
reading, and placed on final passage.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
There was objection.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CSHB 104(RES) am will advance to third reading on tomorrow's                                                                    
calendar.